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|                          Bottle Transport Speed                           |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Markem specified a speed of 22 m/min for the three bottle transport conveyors, and the tests were conducted at this speed.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Noted. Just for clarification for me, your team will optimize the conveyor speed at onsite for getting more slow because lower speed is good for coding and inspection.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             We don't foresee any issues with running at a lower speed since both Markem and Logic&Control operate with encoders connected to the motor speed. This allows for flexible speed adjustment while maintaining proper operation.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              |
|                       Logic&Control Finger Ejectors                       |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         As you are aware, the Logic&Control finger ejectors are designed to switch bottles from one channel to another. They do not perform well when ejecting onto a 90-degree table. To address this, a 'camera online' signal from Markem should be used, connected as NC (Normally Closed). This way, if Markem is not operational, the Logic&Control ejectors will eject all bottles.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          |                                                                                                                                                                                                  I need more clarification for it, but due to the ejecteor logic configuration, it is difficult to reject the bottle to table by fail safe sigunal configuration (send the reject signal to ejector when bottle need to reject). One question, if the lost the signal communication (damage of wire or some reason) for bottle reject, what will be happen?                                                                                                                                                                                                   |                                                                                                                                                                   - Logic&Control requires both 24V power and air pressure to function. If either power or air supply is cut, Logic&Control will not eject bottles<br>- We implemented the camera signal system (NC) not primarily for the 90-degree ejection issue, but as a safety solution for scenarios where the camera might not be operational when bottles arrive.<br>- Since the motors have no automation, we cannot stop the transport in case of failures<br>- This setup ensures that if the Markem camera is inactive or malfunctioning, all bottles will be ejected as a safety measure                                                                                                                                                                   |
|                       Case Printing and Inspection                        | During the FAT, the customer was unsure whether the cases would arrive with the theoretical line speed spacing or without any gaps.<br>The entire control and ejection logic operates with a minimum time of 5 seconds: 4 seconds for the ejector and 1 second for the distance between the camera and the ejector, as there is no tracking system for signals.<br>The expected speed was one case every 6 seconds, based on the line speed. However, since the conveyors are manually loaded, operators must wait for this minimum time between cases.<br>I inquired with the two Shibuya representatives present during the last FAT, and they confirmed that the Case-Sealer has no automation system. Additionally, it is not possible to add a downstream full-case photocell or similar, which would be ideal to ensure the next case can be loaded properly. |                                                                                   I understood current system, but we need to explain how to operate the case seal / the coding and inspection entirely without any issue and concern.<br>Do you have any idea about how to ackowlage the timing of the case infeed to operator ? If operator infeed cases less than 5sec gap, code inspectio cannot perform correctly...<br>Yes, this line doesn't have any pitching system for case. If we need pitching system before case sealer, we also need the auto case folding unit for top of the case and I don't want to implement both due to additional cost at this time...                                                                                   | - Since the motors were designed without automation and we don't control the Sealer (upstream machine), we cannot stop the cases either to create spacing or when the printing/inspection system isn't functioning<br>- The upstream machine should control whether the next case can be sent, typically using a photocell and ready signal<br>- Regarding the 5-second gap: This isn't actually a printing issue. The concern is that if two cases need to be ejected, the second case might not be ejected properly or could jam in the ejector<br>- The printing and camera inspection will work correctly as long as there's minimal separation allowing the printer to distinguish between cases<br>- The ejection system uses a piston with a return time, and since it's an electromechanical system without case tracking, we need to ensure only one case is present between the camera and ejector at any time |
| Signal Review for Transport-Labeler: 240930J_Line Control (rev.03): 94022 |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      For the new 94022 logic (Transport-Labeler), Marco added a photocell that, via the PLC, controls the stop gate and signals the labeler to stop. Once the operator resets the table, the PLC repositions the stop gate and enables the labeler to restart.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Marco is Vetro peronel, right ? This operation is same as my discription on the line control layout I shared, correct ?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             - We have PLC so we can implement on site a more flexible solution, now we follow an implementation similar to line 94025. The Ready to Run signal is sent after:<br><br>- The accumulation table is filled<br>- The operator presses the Reset button indicating the table is clear for the labeler to restart<br>- The labeler controls the accumulation table gate based on its own photocell                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             |
| Signal Review for Transport-Labeler: 240930J_Line Control (rev.03): 94025 |                                                                                                                                                                                                                 The Makro labeler has a downstream photocell to detect the product exiting, signaling the stop gate closure for table loading. As noted in the PDF (point 4), once the stop gate is retracted, the conveyor must send a signal to enable the labeler to start. During Wednesday’s meeting, the customer also suggested waiting for the reset button to be pressed to ensure the table has been cleared before enabling the labeler.                                                                                                                                                                                                                 | I am not sure the Wednesday's meeting, I need to clarify more for this operation. Once operator complete to move all bottles to the conveyor and confirm that no bottle is on the accumulatio table, then operator push the gate retrack switch and Vetro send the Ready to Run signal to Labeler. One point I need to confirm to Makro team is which kind of operation will Labeler performe if Vetro open the "Ready to Run" signal. Because, Vetro open "Ready to Run" signal when the gate extend for accumulation the bottle, but labeler still need to keep running for discharge all of the bottles in the labeler. But, if labeler make the immidiately stop after receiving the " Ready to Run" signal, it is not good for this discharge operation. |                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, the operation matches the line control layout description shared.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          |


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