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  • 44c2f4a4e9f50385b7f8968d55d4241a

Max - Alpla-Henkel - AutoChange

  • 22-07-2025

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  • a0dbf41b0300470ad03a1c48552578eb

RE: [EXT] FW: Automatic changeover trial -

  • 15-07-2025

Hi all, We have made arrangements for the site pre-evaluation for the automatic changeover function of the Autefa and Vetro systems. The plan is to use the current scheduled downtime on line 41 on the July 30th and 31st. @John Sledge Could you please have lots made on the line for those dates so we can cycle through the changeovers for the trial? I believe William may have already mentioned this? @Robert Nation@Brandon B Miller Once Lenin and Sudheesh are set up and ready I will reach out to you for support as we need it. This is not the final implementation, were just trialing the current system to confirm what needs to be done. Please let me know if you have any questions, Best regards Samuel Colley

ALPLA Inc 377 Southwood Ct 42101 Bowling Green, KY USA M: +1 / 270 / 392 9932

www.alpla.com



Subject: RE: [EXT] FW: Automatic changeover trial

Sounds like a plan!


Subject: RE: [EXT] FW: Automatic changeover trial Hi Daniel, Weve now locked this in with Vetro for w/c 7/28. Im working with our logistics manager and John Sledge to get the dummy batchs made so we can perform the testing Ill arrange a meeting for the week before so were all clear on the desired outcome of the trials. Please let me know if you need any more information. Thanks Best regards Samuel Colley

ALPLA Inc 377 Southwood Ct 42101 Bowling Green, KY USA M: +1 / 270 / 392 9932

www.alpla.com



Subject: RE: [EXT] FW: Automatic changeover trial

I will be off for about a week and a half starting the 15th however any other time I should be able to help


Subject: [EXT] FW: Automatic changeover trial Hi both, Just checking if youd had chance to look at this? Thank you, Best regards Samuel Colley

ALPLA Inc 377 Southwood Ct 42101 Bowling Green, KY USA M: +1 / 270 / 392 9932

www.alpla.com



Subject: Automatic changeover trial

Hi Daniel, Hi Brandon, Vetro want to schedule some time to come on site to do a pre evaluation of the auto changeover/batch handling. Theyve requested we have a line available for a few days which they can test with. They would need the line to have a number of dummy lots that they could cycle the change overs through. These lots would have to come from Henkel as if we are simulating real changeovers. Is this something which is feasible from your end? If so I can look at the schedule and see which lines are down in the coming weeks. Thanks Best regards Samuel Colley

ALPLA Inc 377 Southwood Ct 42101 Bowling Green, KY USA M: +1 / 270 / 392 9932

www.alpla.com


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  • 444a9733c3be75a66f442c03b64e4310

Alpla BOW2 Automated changeover next steps

  • 06-03-2025

Hi Max, Hi Mirco, Hi Miguel Hope I find you all well. As you know with Lenins support we did some trials on the auto handling/changeover system. From those trials weve seen that the system is more labor intensive than we need. We need to automate the changeover further than it currently is, bringing the operator interventions to a minimum. Id like to organize a meeting on the 18th March to discuss how far we can automate the current system and the effort needed to make it happen. Please let me know if this date works for you and I will send an invite accordingly. Thankyou, Best regards Samuel Colley

ALPLA Inc 377 Southwood Ct 42101 Bowling Green, KY USA M: +1 / 270 / 392 9932

www.alpla.com


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  • 82d5b0bd5ce95f99b9be3585b8f337c5

RE: EXT Next + 1 - HENKEL - ALPLA - AUTEFA

  • 20-02-2025

Hello everyone,

Yesterday the test was carried out for the automatic changeover on the TLO25/L41 line, during this time no problems were presented by Vetromeccanica, the modification made worked without problems (good job Miguel), Sudheesh (AUTEFA) asked me for a small modification so that, when a line is worked through the backup (TLO24 - TLO28), the error of a line not selected in his panel is omitted, I attach the FBs and the programming lines that were modified, this change was also copied to the backup PLC.

Yesterday afternoon we had a meeting with Shannon, Thomas, Sarah and Sam. From there I was able to capture Shannon's interest in the following points:

He asked if it is possible that when the counting of bottles to be sent to Henkel is finished (during automatic changeover), we can bypass the upstream backup signals from the bottle turners and merges, to avoid the operator having to manually activate the sensors or remove the bottles.

I talked with Sam about the additional rejectors on the lines besides those from Vetromeccanica. ALPLA has a camera that monitors the caps on the bottles and whether the bottle is inverted, and at Henkel there is a label inspector at the exit of each labeler. These rejectors do not reach our PLCs, so we cannot recalculate the bottles that must be sent to Henkel. ALPLA wondered at the meeting why the counts were not exact. I think they are ignoring the number of bottles rejected by the camera + the number of bottles rejected by the label inspector + any jam that occurs in other machines (labelers, elevators, etc.). On our part, we must check the operation of all our ejectors, ensuring that they are counting correctly when a rejection is executed. We must also eliminate or comment out from our logic the rejectors that are not physically on the lines (in the loweratos of the TLO22/L25 line the rejectors are not physically on, I must validate that they are turned off in the logic). In addition, we must ensure that all the bottle counters that exist along the lines are working properly.

Sam asked me about automatic changeover on the conveyor guides. I think that ALPLA will soon make a formal request to activate this system. Currently this option exists in our PLCs and HMIs, but it has never been tested. When this option is working, we must copy the simultaneous changeover logic carried out in Henkel to avoid two guide changes being made at the same time in ALPLA and eliminate the risk of the EMDs becoming uncalibrated.

From these points we must evaluate, if ALPLA requests them, which ones should be charged as additional and which ones are included in the current project.

                         Lenin Vera   

Filling & Process Machine Automation Engineer

                     +1 812 5602700

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I: R: I: [EXT] R: Vetro Conveyor 9.3674

  • 04-02-2025

Ciao Alex, HENKEL ci ha chiesto di implementare il software in modo che non si sovrappongano i cambi formato. Puoi stimarmi le ore per la modifica software a casa e su quali quadri dobbiamo aggiornare il software in cantiere? Siccome il quadro di supervisione riceve i batch con i formati da fare da HENKEL e li compara nel registro ID bottiglie di ALPLA per avviare i cambi formato dovremmo essere in grado di gestire e non sovrapporre cambi formato guide tra una linea e laltra. Allego le email che riassumono il funzionamento del batch handling. Riporto sotto la parte principale. We confirm the following code sas per attached e-mail) are matching with what we agreed back in May therefore we can process P/N (customer article) but ALPLA should write in our supervision PLC a list where customer article is associated to AV, AV Desc, Product Family as agreed.

This list will be constantly editable by ALPLA on a persistent memory as agreed in order for Vetromeccanica to handle new customer articles except for new formats (new bottle shapes) which will require new recipes and commissioning first. As per now we only have an excel list dated May 2020 which we cannot use for batch handling.

ALPLA AV Blank Bottle P/N
184 2638879
253 2688129
102 2638876

Agreed:

AV (must be forwared to Autefa, must be shown on your HMIs) AV Desc (must be shown on you HMIs) Product Family (must be used by Vetro to select right Recipe) Customer article Number (used by Vetro to find matching AV)

HENKEL Alpla Vetromeccanica AUTEFA
Before Changeover Sends IDH_BTL_NEXT number to be validated
Data_To_EbConvey[38]
Validates IDH_BTL_NEXT is valid number and send acknowledge
Data_From_EbConvey[0].2
Step 1 Operator manually selects "Line Clearance" (?) and send signal "0" on "CalculatedBottlesRemainingToFill".
Data_To_EbConvey[23]
Step 2 Stops taking bottles out of trays and sends what is already on the tables and conveyors. Emptying Merger and Line Stops taking bottles out of trays and sends what is already on the tables and conveyors.
N/A TG10 Send 0 in Bottles for Actual Batch
Step 3 Operator verifies line is empty and sends "changeover request" signal after last bottle goes thorugh filler.
Data_To_EbConvey[0].0
Step 4 Operator verifies line is empty and sends "line is busy with changeover", confirming on Popup screen
Data_From_EbConvey[0].0
Step 5 Starts changeover Starts changeover
Data_From_EbConvey[0].0 Data_From_EbConvey[0].0
Step 6 Ends changeover. Sends signal "Changeover is finished and ready. Ends changeover. Sends signal "Changeover is finished and ready.
Data_From_EbConvey[0].1 Data_From_EbConvey[0].1
Step 7 Send Reset counters signal Reset Counters
Data_To_EbConvey[0].1
Step 8 Send new value on "CalculatedBottlesRemainingToFill".
Data_To_EbConvey[23]
Step 9 Send Changeover Complete. To be considered "Production Ready" Starts conveying bottles. Finish Chanover Cycle
Data_To_EbConvey[0].2

Signals:


FromHenkel


Data_To_EbConvey[0].0 : Request Signal To Start ChangeOver Data_To_EbConvey[0].1 : Reset Signal To Restart all Counter Data_To_EbConvey[0].2 : ChangeOver Complete Data_To_EbConvey[0].3 : Production Ready

To Henkel


Data_From_EbConvey[0].0 : Line is busy with ChangeOver Data_From_EbConvey[0].1 : ChangeOver is finished and ready Data_From_EbConvey[0].2 : IDH_BTL_NEXT Proper: 1 = Found / 0 = Not Found

ToAutefa: x[0] : Reset ToAutefa: x[1] : Request Signal To Start Changeover

Program AV AV Desc Henkel Color Desc ALPLA Color Code Packaging ID Packaging Desc Compound ID Compound Desc Product Family ID Product Family Desc Spout / Spigot Type Spout / Spigot Id# Dose Cup Type Dose Cup Id# Customer Article Number
Beluga 109 HDPE Beluga 188oz White White Color White 20 20 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) Beluga 188oz 2 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay Beluga 11748 8 HDPE Beluga 188oz SPG B 2275368 DC2X 2404432
Beluga 192 HDPE Beluga 188oz Trans Green Trans Green Color Green 20 20 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) Beluga 188oz 40 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay Beluga PM62284E111 8 HDPE Beluga 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
Beluga 193 HDPE Beluga 188oz Orange Orange Color Orange 20 20 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) Beluga 188oz 41 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay Beluga PM3983 8 HDPE Beluga 188oz SPG R 2275367 DC2X 2404432
Beluga 194 HDPE Beluga 188oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 20 20 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) Beluga 188oz 42 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay Beluga 1603778-N 8 HDPE Beluga 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 110 HDPE H13 188oz All White All White Color White 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 7 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 11748 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 164 HDPE H13 188oz Purple Purple Color Pink / Lilac 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 59 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 PM53536 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 165 HDPE H13 188oz Dark Blue Dark Blue Color Blue 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 60 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 PM52044E111 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 166 HDPE H13 188oz Pearl Purple Pearl Purple Color Pink / Lilac 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 61 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 165954 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 167 HDPE H13 188oz Sunlight Yellow Sunlight Yellow Color Yellow 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 62 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 PM25671 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 168 HDPE H13 188oz Orange Orange Color Orange 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 63 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 PM3983 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 169 HDPE H13 188oz Red Red Color Red 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 64 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 155097 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 170 HDPE H13 188oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 65 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 1603778-N 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 171 HDPE H13 188oz Green Green Color Green 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 66 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 PM67887 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H13 172 HDPE H13 188oz Gain Green Gain Green Color Green 24 24 - NOPAL 14u X 54 TRA (756 pcs) H13 188oz 67 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H13 PM61781E111 9 HDPE H13 188oz SPG WBR TBC DC2X 2404432
H14 223 HDPE H14 34oz White White Color White 25 25 - NOPAL 14u X 210 TRA (2,940 pcs) H14 34oz 68 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H14 11748 17 HDPE H14 34oz SP63 2275481
H14 224 HDPE H14 34oz Pearl White Pearl White Color White 25 25 - NOPAL 14u X 210 TRA (2,940 pcs) H14 34oz 72 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H14 11748 and PM12048E63 17 HDPE H14 34oz SP63 2275481
H14 225 HDPE H14 34oz Blue Blue Color Blue 25 25 - NOPAL 14u X 210 TRA (2,940 pcs) H14 34oz 69 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H14 PM53399 17 HDPE H14 34oz SP63 2275481
H14 226 HDPE H14 34oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 25 25 - NOPAL 14u X 210 TRA (2,940 pcs) H14 34oz 70 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H14 1603778-N 17 HDPE H14 34oz SP63 2275481
H96 227 HDPE H96 64oz All White All White Color White 26 26 - NOPAL 14u X 143 TRA (2,002 pcs) H96 64oz 71 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H96 11748 18 HDPE H96 64oz SP63 2275481
H96 228 HDPE H96 64oz Light Purple Light Purple Color Pink / Lilac 26 26 - NOPAL 14u X 143 TRA (2,002 pcs) H96 64oz 73 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H96 161250 18 HDPE H96 64oz SP63 2275481
H96 229 HDPE H96 64oz Blue Blue Color Blue 26 26 - NOPAL 14u X 143 TRA (2,002 pcs) H96 64oz 74 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H96 PM53399 18 HDPE H96 64oz SP63 2275481
H96 230 HDPE H96 64oz Green Green Color Green 26 26 - NOPAL 14u X 143 TRA (2,002 pcs) H96 64oz 75 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H96 PM67887 18 HDPE H96 64oz SP63 2275481
H96 231 HDPE H96 64oz All Blue All Blue Color Blue 26 26 - NOPAL 14u X 143 TRA (2,002 pcs) H96 64oz 76 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H96 1603774-N 18 HDPE H96 64oz SP63 2275481
H96 232 HDPE H96 64oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 26 26 - NOPAL 14u X 143 TRA (2,002 pcs) H96 64oz 77 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay H96 1603778-N 18 HDPE H96 64oz SP63 2275481
LF04B H 105 HDPE LF04B H 40oz All White All White Color White 8 8 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) LF04B H 40oz 9 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay LF04B H 11748 6 HDPE LF04B H 40oz SP70 1466712 2638861
LF04B H 126 HDPE LF04B H 40oz All Blue All Blue Color Blue 8 8 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) LF04B H 40oz 10 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay LF04B H 1603774-N 6 HDPE LF04B H 40oz SP70 1466712 2638860
LF10B H 195 HDPE LF10B H 100oz All White All White Color White 16 16 - NOPAL 14u X 81 TRA (1,134 pcs) LF10B H 100oz 3 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay LF10 H 11748 7 HDPE LF10B H 100oz SP70 1466712 2638863
LF10B H 196 HDPE LF10B H 100oz All Blue All Blue Color Blue 16 16 - NOPAL 14u X 81 TRA (1,134 pcs) LF10B H 100oz 11 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay LF10 H 1603774-N 7 HDPE LF10B H 100oz SP70 1466712 2638862
SP01 104 HDPE SP01 50oz White White Color White 9 9 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) SP01 50oz 5 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP01 11748 5 HDPE SP01 50oz SP63 2275481
SP01 173 HDPE SP01 50oz Dark Blue Dark Blue Color Blue 9 9 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) SP01 50oz 12 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP01 PM52044E111 5 HDPE SP01 50oz SP63 2275481
SP01 174 HDPE SP01 50oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 9 9 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) SP01 50oz 13 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP01 1603777-NE 5 HDPE SP01 50oz SP63 2275481
SP01 175 HDPE SP01 50oz Sunlight Yellow Sunlight Yellow Color Yellow 9 9 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) SP01 50oz 14 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP01 PM25671 5 HDPE SP01 50oz SP63 2275481
SP01 176 HDPE SP01 50oz Blue Blue Color Blue 9 9 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) SP01 50oz 15 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP01 PM53939 5 HDPE SP01 50oz SP63 2275481
SP01 177 HDPE SP01 50oz Purple Purple Color Pink / Lilac 9 9 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) SP01 50oz 16 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP01 PM53536 5 HDPE SP01 50oz SP63 2275481
SP01 178 HDPE SP01 50oz Green Green Color Green 9 9 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) SP01 50oz 17 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP01 PM67887 5 HDPE SP01 50oz SP63 2275481
SP01 179 HDPE SP01 50oz Gain Green Gain Green Color Green 9 9 - NOPAL 14u X 176 TRA (2,464 pcs) SP01 50oz 18 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP01 PM61781E111 5 HDPE SP01 50oz SP63 2275481
SP02 207 HDPE SP02 150oz Pearl Green Pearl Green Color Green 21 21 - NOPAL 14u X 72 TRA (1,008 pcs) SP02 150oz 43 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP02 PM68140 14 HDPE SP02 150oz SP63 2275481
SP02 208 HDPE SP02 150oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 21 21 - NOPAL 14u X 72 TRA (1,008 pcs) SP02 150oz 44 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP02 1603778-N 14 HDPE SP02 150oz SP63 2275481
SP02 209 HDPE SP02 150oz Blue Blue Color Blue 21 21 - NOPAL 14u X 72 TRA (1,008 pcs) SP02 150oz 45 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP02 PM53939 14 HDPE SP02 150oz SP63 2275481
SP05 102 HDPE SP05 100oz White White Color White 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 4 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 11748 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638876
SP05 180 HDPE SP05 100oz Orange Orange Color Orange 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 19 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 PM3983 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638881
SP05 181 HDPE SP05 100oz Sunlight Yellow Sunlight Yellow Color Yellow 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 20 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 PM25671 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638882
SP05 182 HDPE SP05 100oz Dark Blue Dark Blue Color Blue 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 21 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 PM52044E111 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638878
SP05 183 HDPE SP05 100oz Blue Blue Color Blue 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 22 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 PM53399 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638874
SP05 184 HDPE SP05 100oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 23 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 1603778-N 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638879
SP05 185 HDPE SP05 100oz Pearl White Pearl White Color White 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 4 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 11748 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638880
SP05 186 HDPE SP05 100oz Green Green Color Green 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 25 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 PM67887 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638873
SP05 187 HDPE SP05 100oz Gain Green Gain Green Color Green 17 17 - NOPAL 14u X 90 TRA (1,260 pcs) SP05 100oz 26 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP05 PM61781E111 3 HDPE SP05 100oz SP63 2275481 2638875
SP12 197 HDPE SP12 172oz All White All White Color White 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 27 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 11748 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP12 198 HDPE SP12 172oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 28 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 1603778-N 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP12 199 HDPE SP12 172oz Orange Orange Color Orange 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 29 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 PM3983 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP12 200 HDPE SP12 172oz All Blue All Blue Color Blue 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 30 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 1603774-N 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP12 201 HDPE SP12 172oz Silver Silver Color Silver 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 31 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 PM86534 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP12 202 HDPE SP12 172oz Pink Pearl Pink Pearl Pink Pearl 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 32 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 152985 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP12 203 HDPE SP12 172oz Pearl White Pearl White Color White 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 24 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 11748 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP12 204 HDPE SP12 172oz Light Purple Light Purple Color Pink / Lilac 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 33 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 161250 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP12 205 HDPE SP12 172oz Blue Blue Color Blue 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 34 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 PM53939 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG R 2275367 DC5 2272746
SP12 206 HDPE SP12 172oz Gain Green Gain Green Color Green 18 18 - NOPAL 14u X 56 TRA (784 pcs) SP12 172oz 35 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP12 PM61781E111 13 HDPE SP12 172oz SPG B 2275368 DC5 2272746
SP14 210 HDPE SP14 75oz White White Color White 22 22 - NOPAL 14u X 117 TRA (1,638 pcs) SP14 75oz 46 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP14 11748 15 HDPE SP14 75oz SP63 2275481
SP14 211 HDPE SP14 75oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 22 22 - NOPAL 14u X 117 TRA (1,638 pcs) SP14 75oz 47 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP14 1603778-N 15 HDPE SP14 75oz SP63 2275481
SP14 212 HDPE SP14 75oz Yellow Yellow Color Yellow 22 22 - NOPAL 14u X 117 TRA (1,638 pcs) SP14 75oz 48 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP14 PM22273 15 HDPE SP14 75oz SP63 2275481
SP14 213 HDPE SP14 75oz Sunlight Yellow Sunlight Yellow Color Yellow 22 22 - NOPAL 14u X 117 TRA (1,638 pcs) SP14 75oz 49 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP14 PM25671 15 HDPE SP14 75oz SP63 2275481
SP14 214 HDPE SP14 75oz Dark Blue Dark Blue Color Blue 22 22 - NOPAL 14u X 117 TRA (1,638 pcs) SP14 75oz 50 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP14 PM52044E111 15 HDPE SP14 75oz SP63 2275481
SP14 215 HDPE SP14 75oz Blue Blue Color Blue 22 22 - NOPAL 14u X 117 TRA (1,638 pcs) SP14 75oz 51 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP14 PM53939 15 HDPE SP14 75oz SP63 2275481
SP14 216 HDPE SP14 75oz Silver Silver Color Silver 22 22 - NOPAL 14u X 117 TRA (1,638 pcs) SP14 75oz 52 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP14 PM86534 15 HDPE SP14 75oz SP63 2275481
SP17 103 HDPE SP17 125oz Green Green Color Green 19 19 - NOPAL 14u X 72 TRA (1,008 pcs) SP17 125oz 6 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP17 PM67887 4 HDPE SP17 125oz SP63 2275481 2638872
SP17 188 HDPE SP17 125oz Dark Blue Dark Blue Color Blue 19 19 - NOPAL 14u X 72 TRA (1,008 pcs) SP17 125oz 36 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP17 PM52044E111 4 HDPE SP17 125oz SP63 2275481 2638870
SP17 189 HDPE SP17 125oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 19 19 - NOPAL 14u X 72 TRA (1,008 pcs) SP17 125oz 37 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP17 1603778-N 4 HDPE SP17 125oz SP63 2275481 2638865
SP17 190 HDPE SP17 125oz Purple Purple Color Pink / Lilac 19 19 - NOPAL 14u X 72 TRA (1,008 pcs) SP17 125oz 38 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP17 PM53536 4 HDPE SP17 125oz SP63 2275481 2638869
SP17 191 HDPE SP17 125oz Sunlight Yellow Sunlight Yellow Color Yellow 19 19 - NOPAL 14u X 72 TRA (1,008 pcs) SP17 125oz 39 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP17 PM25671 4 HDPE SP17 125oz SP63 2275481 2638868
SP26 217 HDPE SP26 150oz All White All White Color White 23 23 - NOPAL 14u X 64 TRA (896 pcs) SP26 150oz 53 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP26 11748 16 HDPE SP26 150oz SP63 2275481
SP26 218 HDPE SP26 150oz Sunlight Yellow Sunlight Yellow Color Yellow 23 23 - NOPAL 14u X 64 TRA (896 pcs) SP26 150oz 54 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP26 PM25671 16 HDPE SP26 150oz SP63 2275481
SP26 219 HDPE SP26 150oz Purple Purple Color Pink / Lilac 23 23 - NOPAL 14u X 64 TRA (896 pcs) SP26 150oz 55 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP26 PM53536 16 HDPE SP26 150oz SP63 2275481
SP26 220 HDPE SP26 150oz Dark Blue Dark Blue Color Blue 23 23 - NOPAL 14u X 64 TRA (896 pcs) SP26 150oz 56 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP26 PM52044E111 16 HDPE SP26 150oz SP63 2275481
SP26 221 HDPE SP26 150oz Pearl Blue Pearl Blue Color Blue 23 23 - NOPAL 14u X 64 TRA (896 pcs) SP26 150oz 57 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP26 1603778-N 16 HDPE SP26 150oz SP63 2275481
SP26 222 HDPE SP26 150oz Green Green Color Green 23 23 - NOPAL 14u X 64 TRA (896 pcs) SP26 150oz 58 COEX HDPE PCR 50% 3lay SP26 PM67887 16 HDPE SP26 150oz SP63 2275481

Esatto, quella è l unica pagina che abbiamo.

A casa mia il manuale del pannello spega come usare i dati disponibili e basta.

Una gran parte della roba scritta in inglese andrebbe spiegata al cliente prima di fare l impianto pneumatico, comunque per me lo puoi far fare ai ragazzi in cantiere.

Per quanto riguarda i dubbi sull installazione, non ne ho idea di cosa sia stato fatto e le cose da guardare sono sempre le solite:

quanti attuatori ci sono per gruppo?

Sono state controllate eventuali perdite di aria su ogni singolo tubo colorato?

Una calata dell aria quanti gruppi valvole alimentano?

Quante linee devono fare il cambio formato contemporaneamente?

Quanti bar a riposo?

Quanti bar con impulso attivo?

Ho 39di febbre e mal di gola boia, oggi non credo di essere in grado di sostenere una telefonata

Inviato dal mio Galaxy

Data: 07/02/24 11:38 (GMT+01:00)

Ciao Alex, Grazie per aver risposto subito. Parli di questa pagina giusto? Se siete oberati, siccome Alok è in cantiere con Lenin e Todi chiedo a lui di interfacciarsi con i tecnici e il cliente per inserire tutte le info mancanti tra cui i calcoli UTM allegati e chiarimenti evidenziati email a HENKEL sotto. Posso dirgli che se ha dei dubbi sulla corretta impostazione - funzionamento di contattarti finché in cantiere oggi e domani? Poi vedi tu se te la senti di rispondere. Se a tuo parere rimangono dei dubbi importanti sulla corretta esecuzione dellinstallazione sentiti libero di segnalarcelo.

Grazie, Max

Max

Abbiamo solamente una piccola descrizione della pagina pannello perché ci sono 6 valori in tutto di cui 4 fissi(password livello alto) e 2 variabili in base alla ricetta(diametro bottiglia e tolleranza)!

Per slide o cose varie devi sentire chi fa i manuali, noi non ne facciamo e non ne abbiamo.

Miguel non ha assolutamente tempo per seguire queste cose e lo devi escludere immediatamente.se devi chiedere cose a chi è in cantiere fallo tramite l assistenza.

I parametri di pneumatica sono calcoli che avevano fatto in utm (pressione a riposo, portata, numero attuatori per gruppo valvole) quando sono stati inventati gli emd, quindi anche su questo devi chiedere al reparto giusto.

Sicuramente hanno dei problemi perché non saranno stati fatti correttamente i circuiti a livello di pressioni/portate/serbatoi

Inviato dal mio Galaxy

Data: 07/02/24 10:42 (GMT+01:00)

Ciao Miguel, Come ci siamo detti, siccome hai altre urgenze, se riesci a delegare a Lenin, Todi e Alok la creazione di un paio di pagine con relative foto da inserire nel manuale 9.3674 poi le giriamo a Linda/Mattia per metterle in bella. Magari Alex ha già fatto delle slide per i manuali da cui possiamo partire e che possiamo girare a Lenin, Todi e Alok. Senti prima Alex cosa suggerisce. Grazie, Max

Ciao Alex,

Possiamo preparare un paio di pagine da integrare nel manuale per il corretto settaggio meccanico e software dei pressostati sulla 9.3674? Tutto quello che i tecnici regolano sul preparato manualmente e a software per assicurarsi che laria in arrivo sia controllata e gli impulsi siano corretti per un buon funzionamento degli

EMD.

Suggerisco tramite Miguel di chiedere a Lenin di mettere insieme foto e testi come da nostro standard. Ovviamente dopo lo giriamo a Linda/Mattia per metterlo in bella.

Urgente, servirebbe questa settimana perché non saltandoci fuori stanno rifacendo in questi giorni il piping dellaria compressa.

Grazie per il celere supporto.

Max

Begin forwarded message:

Date: 6 February 2024 at 20:29:01 CET

Bhrahmbhatt - Vetromeccanica S.r.l." a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com, Timothy Bollenbecker timothy.bollenbecker@henkel.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] R: Vetro Conveyor 9.3674

 Copy me on the manual for the regulator setup. Indicate each setpoint as identifiable on the regulator and how it correlates to other setpoints within the program... please.

Many do not understand how it works. The guys on site (Vetro) has been good trying to explain it but Im wanting to hand something to the maintenance and automation group here so they can develop the proper setup sheets and SOPs.

Im also looking separately at the system design and challenges with volumes, pipe sizes, remote receiver tanks, hoses, condensate, routing… appears to have quite a few challenges not thought through in basic design principles of an air system.


Subject: R: [EXT] R: Vetro Conveyor 9.3674

Hi David, Apologies for letting you wait. Attached you can find a file made for ALPLA showing in green maximum and average air consumption per circuit for all lines except L20 which is the last one. As agreed pneumatic system for L20 follows the same design as for the other lines. This means we have an air circuit every 30m meaning we require an air drop connection point every 30 m. In our construction layout we indicated an air drop connection point every 30 m with 8 Bar and 90N-liters/min.

Below I copy paste answers to your predecessors questions dated September 2021.

From our meeting last week, and your emails, the technical specification of the air required by the Vetro system is 90N-liters/min @ 8 bar. There is a misinterpretation, we require 8 Bar at each connection point and 90N-liters/min at 1 bar for 1 hour at each connection point.

This is a little misleading, since N (for “Normal” L/min) is at Standard Conditions 1bar. We think Vetro were combining two parameters, saying we need 8bar and the system requires a flow rate of 90, which is ~3.2 scfm.

Question is this per pulse/cycle at the Festo regulator, or at each of the EMDs? At every Festo regulator (connection point)

In our meeting on Thursday, we learned that air usage was 5 liters per pulse per EMD? 0.008 l at 8bar or 0.008x8 L at 1bar per each EMD per pulse

Is that true? To complete a rail adjustment of 8mm @ 0.25mm/pulse, you need 32 pulses/cycles, which means 32x5=160L of air to move each EMD. à For a more realistic calculation for each line please consider the green values in the excel sheet which INCLUDES THE PIPING VOLUME to be filled and the suggested time for impulse and release (see below).

Is this on the basis of 8bar or is it N-Liters? See above

The 5-sec air pulse/5-sec hold (release) was the initial number we were given; they then said it could be up to 8 sec; we were able to see pulses from 10 to 20-sec last Friday is this correct? Were they modified on purpose? Yes they were modified on purpose to be sure every EMD has the right pressure

Hope this helps clear some doubts. Kind regards, Max

Hi David,

Well received, can I forward it to your early next week once back in the office?

Thank you and kind regards,

Max

On 1 Feb 2024, at 15:32, David Busch david.busch@henkel.com wrote:

 I need documents with specific instructions on setup and usage.

Now I have heard or seen 4 bar 5.5 bar, 6 bar, 8 bar… If I have nothing in documented format to give them… I will not present to them and they will continue to set it how they THINK is what is right.

Alok Bhrahmbhatt - Vetromeccanica S.r.l. a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com


Subject: [EXT] R: Vetro Conveyor

Hi David It is correct what M. Hodges writes , proper operation is guaranteed between 8 and 6 bar, so I recommend that you adjust the low air sensors at 5.5 bar , in order to be sure of the correct functioning of the guides.

I have already talked to Roberto to adjust the sensor in this way.

Best regrards Mirco Magri After Sales Department Vetromeccanica srl

P
Magri - Vetromeccanica S.r.l. m.magri@vetromeccanica.it; Alok Bhrahmbhatt - Vetromeccanica S.r.l. a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com

Can you either forward me the spec setup sheet to the regulators on the air system supporting the conveyor change overs or guide me to someone who can? We have a difference of opinion on how to set the regulators on the rail system. I want to squash this misunderstanding and get all on the same page.

From what I understand there is a setting on the regulator for air supply to the air system on the conveyor rails. Then we have a range of operation for the rail air system… as well as the compressor settings (separate of your air controls) we need to be mindful of and ensure we supply enough air to change over. Operations group is challenging the settings of the regulators and air supply and why we can not change over two lines at the same time.

I would like to understand the cfm required to change a line over (per the SOP) and balance that to the rate in which the compressor can supply, recovery rate, and constant average supply vs usage per change over. I need the engineering design specs of the system to understand the needs of supply.


Subject: Re: Vetro Conveyor

Operates between 6-8 bar. Anything lower than 6 bar, the sensors should fault. I walked Vetro guys through this earlier due to they were lowering the low air sensors down to 4 bar. I explained to them they it will not function under 6 bar.

Lennon translated for me.

On Feb 1, 2024, at 8:44AM, David Busch david.busch@henkel.com wrote:

 Not that I would expect you to know this but… do you happen to know what load or recovery the system was originally specd at? Appears this system does not recover well at all for the use (as little as) it gets. I know it goes back a few years on design.


Subject: Vetro Conveyor

Tim and Lenon have discovered we do not have enough air supply to two lines changing over at the same time. We will need to have a provision made with alarms that Line X is in change over. Once completed the other line can automatically start C/O

Best Regards Ken Desmond Cell Manager, Liquids Packaging

Henkel Corporation


385 Southwood Court Bowling Green, KY 42101 www.henkel-northamerica.com

Adjuntos


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Next + 1 - HENKEL - ALPLA - AUTEFA

  • 04-02-2025

Good morning,

I need to confirm my understanding of the NEXT + 1 data requirements from ALPLA/AUTEFA. HENKEL sends this data through the Malisko -> Prosoft system to the Vetromeccanica Q1 PLCs/Lines as three 12-character strings (PO_NUMBER, IDH_BTL, IDH_CON), which we label as d1-d9 in our software. This data is word-swapped on the Q1 but not further processed on the Supervisor.

The Supervisor PLC manages batch communication with Autefa using AUTEFA's 'Autefa Standard Function Block AS_FB_TG_GENERAL'. The TG10 telegram includes Batch_ID, Next_Batch_Batch_ID, and Next_Batch_+1_Batch_ID, but only Batch_ID is processed on the PLC.

Please specify which data you need from PO_NUMBER_NEXT + 1, IDH_BTL_NEXT + 1, and IDH_CON_NEXT + 1 for the batch, and in what format.

Best regards,

Miguel Angel Vera

External Automation Design Engineer

Vetromeccanica srl Smart Moving Solutions

Strada Isolanda 26, 43024 Provazzano, Parma - Italy


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R: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification 9.3060-3067

  • 04-02-2025

Hi Lenin, Thanks for clarifying with Sam. We are going to review initial project specifications and try to follow what was agreed at that time. Nevertheless since it was not possible to commission automatic change over before commssioning final formats, early 2022, not because of Vetromeccanica but because automatic batch change over involves several companies, everything on this topic will have to be quoted separately, for work in Vetromeccanica and on site. ALPLA is already paying for your stay until February 15th so modifications on site after this date will have to be covered by additional PO. Also we are awaiting a first PO for inhouse software modification but seems to me that another PO will be necessary for inhouse software modification since more details need to be clarified. Thank you for your good work as always! Max

Hi,

Today I spoke with Sam about this topic, and he told me that the new variables are needed to execute the change automatically. This completely changes the way we should work on this project.

He also told me that we should contact AUTEFA, since they are the ones who need this information.

The contacts of the AUTEFA people assigned to this project are:

Stephen.Buehler@autefa.com,

                         Lenin Vera   

Filling & Process Machine Automation Engineer

                     +1 812 5602700

En lunes, 3 de febrero de 2025, 08:06:25 (-05:00), Miguel Angel Vera - Vetromeccanica S.r.l. m.vera@vetromeccanica.it escribió:

Hello Lenin,

I reviewed the requirements for the NEXT2 data for ALPLA. I'm unsure if only changing the data type is necessary, as ALPLA might not read the raw data from FromHenkel d1-d9 directly. Instead, they might need it on the OPC server similar to the Next Batch structure. You mentioned converting the data type, but I believe the issue is with the data swap at the Q1s. Removing the automatic swap could solve this, but then where will ALPLA read the data from? This wasn't discussed in last week's emails or call. Do you have more information on how ALPLA plans to access the data from d1-d9?

Best Regards,

Miguel Angel Vera External Automation Design Engineer Vetromeccanica srl Smart Moving Solutions Strada Isolanda 26, 43024 Provazzano, Parma - Italy

Alok Bhrahmbhatt - Vetromeccanica S.r.l. a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Alex Biasini - Vetromeccanica S.r.l. a.biasini@vetromeccanica.it; Miguel Angel Vera

sarah.harmon@alpla.com sarah.harmon@alpla.com; Sam.Colley@alpla.com sam.colley@alpla.com

Asunto: Re: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Hello everyone

Alok, our friends at ALPLA are asking when the estimated date for this work will be.

Below I refresh our client's request:

Henkel is currently sending a new data package through the variables Data_From_EbConvey[1-9], in our DB (FromHenkelv2_U) these variables are as a DINT, we must change these variables to Array[0..11] of Char (equal to the variable PO_Number). See image 1 of the attached PDF document

ALPLA wants to see the new variables sent from HENKEL in the same format as it is currently reading the variables PO_Number, AB_IDH_BTL and NB_IDH_BTL.

The names of the new variables must be:

Data_To_EbConvey[1].0 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[1].1 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[1].2 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[1].3 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[2].0 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[2].1 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[2].2 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[2].3 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[3].0 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[3].1 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[3].2 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[3].3 PO_Next2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[4].0 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[4].1 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[4].2 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[4].3 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[5].0 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[5].1 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[5].2 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[5].3 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[6].0 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[6].1 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[6].2 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[6].3 IDH_CON_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[7].0 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[7].1 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[7].2 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[7].3 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[8].0 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[8].1 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[8].2 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[8].3 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[9].0 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[9].1 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[9].2 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

Data_To_EbConvey[9].3 IDH_BTL_NEXT2 SINT

                         Lenin Vera   

Filling & Process Machine Automation Engineer

                     +1 812 5602700

En jueves, 19 de diciembre de 2024, 11:55:42 (-05:00), L&E lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com escribió:

Hello

Miguel, could you please let us know what the estimated time would be to complete this request?

Lenin Vera

FSE

+1 812 5602700

On Dec 19, 2024, at 10:08AM, steve.mcevoy@alpla.com wrote:



Hi Lenin If you could get Italy to offer a feedback on expected timing that would be appreciated. This piece of work is being pushed by Senior Leadership in ALPLA and HENKEL and we need to manage their expectations Thanks in advance. Steve


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Hi Steve,

I don't have an estimated date; in Italy they are working on the changes that must be made in all the Q1 PLCs and in the supervisory system PLC. As a rule, when a change is to be made in the supervisory PLC, this change must be made in Italy.

                         Lenin Vera   

Filling & Process Machine Automation Engineer

                     +1 812 5602700

En miércoles, 18 de diciembre de 2024, 13:42:51 (-05:00), steve.mcevoy@alpla.com escribió:

Hi Lenin Thanks for the update Can you give any indication on timings for the changes needed ? Thanks. Steve

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Platt Federico Federico.Platt@alpla.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com;


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

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Hi Steve,

I have been busy this week; I requested help from Italy to make the modification in the PLCs. We have to change the variables di1 - di9 from DINT to SINT.

Thank you and I am sorry for the delay.

                         Lenin Vera   

Filling & Process Machine Automation Engineer

                     +1 812 5602700

En lunes, 16 de diciembre de 2024, 12:15:11 (-05:00), steve.mcevoy@alpla.com escribió:

Hello Lenin & Shannon What is the status please on the validation of the PLC tags Can you provide an update by end of today please? As we have a meeting with Henkel Procurement tomorrow morning

Many thanks. Steve

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; bmahanna@malisko.com; Johnson Shannon Shannon.Johnson@alpla.com; McEvoy Steve steve.mcevoy@alpla.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

All of the PLC tags in all of the PLCs have been updated and are ready to be validated by lenin and then alpla. They are the same structure as the other next tags. Let me know if you have any questions

lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

bmahanna@malisko.com;


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

It looks as if we are now receiving the next next IDH information now from SAP on our side.
@Robert Nation will begin making that data usable and updating our message maps per line. This will require help from Lenin to make sure that he is receiving them correctly and ultimately make sure that Alpla is receiving the same values.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

This is something were still working on. It has been added to line 40 from out end but were waiting to validate those tags with our global SAP/digital team. Once we are getting those data points, we can update the message map and provide those data point locations.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Thanks Brandon. Has the data for the next-next order been added already? This is the other critical piece of information we need for the automatic batch handling / changeover. Regards

Federico Platt Sr Project Engineering Manager +1 (678) 545-5565

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Federico, Now that the signal exchange has been validated, next steps I believe would be to verify that the message map we sent is what Vetro is using and that you are looking at the correct data type for the SAP data. Whenever Sam returns please verify these signals with Vetro. A bottles remaining is being sent from lines 40, 41 and 42 currently thanks to Daniel which is a DINT so it does not need to be converted to a string like the SAP information. Once verified, this can be rolled out to the other 3 OSBB fed lines.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com; Brent Page brent.page@henkel.com; Douglas Arnold douglas.arnold@henkel.com


Subject: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Yesterday, the data exchange on each OSBB-fed line was verified with Vetro. During testing, we found that some values were being read correctly but in the wrong data type. Data from SAP goes through multiple conversions between Henkel and Vetro, as outlined below. On the left side of the PLX communication module, Henkels data is in one format, and on the right side, its Alpla's. The process is as follows:

SAP sends data as a string. Henkel converts that string into three DINTs for the PLX communication module. The PLX then converts each DINT into two words. Vetro must then convert this back to the original string value to match the exact data SAP initially sent.

During the testing, we observed that when comparing certain data points, Vetro was reading the correct DINT values. However, to retrieve the original string value, an additional conversion is needed on their end. On Line 41, all values were read back as string values, so every IDH, PO #, etc., matched exactly as Henkel receives them from SAP. On other lines, like Line 40, they received the correct values, and the DINTs matched those being sent. However, some data points still need to be converted back into a string to be fully usable.

@Robert Nation, I think that the logic you created for line 40 with the new strapping table can be implemented across the OSBB fed lines to give Alpla a more accurate running bottle count now. This is assuming the tank dimensions are the same across the lines. Once completed, Vetro will need to verify that their message map matches the one provided to them and this should be resolved.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

I think that will be a second part once this is figured out.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Thanks Brandon. All of these signals are what Henkel is sending to Vetro/Alpla. Are there any issues on what ALPLA/Vetro are sending to you? Or this will be the 2nd part of the exercise? Regards

Federico Platt Sr Project Engineering Manager +1 (678) 545-5565

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

This is what weve generated based on our PLCs. This needs to be compared to what Vetro has and corrected where there are discrepancies. Itd be easy enough to rule out a conversion error at the same time. I could force a value into a DINT on all Alpla fed lines and if Vetro receives the same value on their end then at least that possibility has been ruled out.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Do you have the latest message map that we should refer to? If you have seen issues already with Vetro, it is very likely that those issues have been transferred to us.

Federico Platt Sr Project Engineering Manager +1 (678) 545-5565

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

No changes on our end but thats what we need someone to tell us if every data point is inaccurate or if just certain data points. We need to understand if this is an issue with the data map or if there is some dint/word conversion error taking place or even if there is something in between Alpla and Vetro that is incorrect. We are already seeing discrepancies between the the message maps we have versus what Vetro has but firstly need to verify the conversion between data types is also not an issue. From what I see on our end the data in our PLC is correct, so again that data may not be where Vetro is expecting it to be or there is something else going on with the data type conversion.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Hi Brandon, This request will require some time on our end to evaluate. Sam is out of office for 2 more weeks and I will need to find time in the next days if the need is urgent. Has anything been changed in your end for the last couple of months, since we discussed the topic? Regards

Federico Platt Sr Project Engineering Manager +1 (678) 545-5565

Platt Federico Federico.Platt@alpla.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; David Busch david.busch@henkel.com; Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Hi Federico or Sam, can you provide any feedback on what exactly is not coming thru correctly? Is it everything or only certain data?


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering


Subject: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Good morning. Brandon is trying to validate the information which has been re-mapped from the SAP and MES systems to ALPLA to verify the change overs and current status of bottles is correct and what ALPLA needs to finish their side of inventory controls for staging. This isnt really something we are willing to wait on until Lenin is onsite if he can check this remotely please schedule it. It doesnt necessarily need to be Lenin… can be any one of the programmers on your side whom may be qualified and know what to look for. We are at a standstill until the adjusted information has been validated and we dont need this to fall through the cracks again for another few years. Currently it is to validate that we are now transmitting the requested information that ALPLA is looking for which Brandon can validate exactly what is being transferred. Respective to time spent on validating the information if we need to pay for the time to ensure its captured, I am cleared to cover the additional cost within an existing project. As this has been an open issue for a number of years, and that we have the potential to close this item finally, please help Brandon validate the information quickly.

David Busch Sr Project Manager Henkel Bowling Green, Ky (Cell) 270-282-3818

-----Original Message-----

mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna


Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: Vetro Contact

Lenin, Attached is the evaluation we've completed on all of the Alpla fed lines. We need to understand where Alpla is not receiving the correct data. From my understanding it sounds like everything coming thru is incorrect.

@Federico.Platt@alpla.com, can you confirm what specific data is incorrect or is it everything? I understand that some lines are not sending a bottles remaining, that is being worked on but first need to make sure that data is being transferred from Henkel to Vetro correctly. If I remember, even the SAP IDH # is not being received correctly.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

-----Original Message-----


Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Vetro Contact

Yes, I can work with you on this issue, I can connect remotely. Alok told me about this situation. I will speak with him tomorrow to confirm my involvement.

Lenin Vera

FSE

+1 812 5602700

On Oct 23, 2024, at 5:02PM, Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com wrote:

I'm not sure either. Is this something that we can work together on? Alok mentioned that I should reach out to you for this. I do not know your ability to help verify remotely.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

-----Original Message-----

From: L&E lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 3:58 PM

To: Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com

Cc: Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com

Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Vetro Contact

This message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER be CAUTIOUS, particularly

with links and attachments ________________________________

ALPLA has not commented anything to me, I am not sure if they have spoken to anyone in Italy.

Lenin Vera

FSE

+1 812 5602700

On Oct 23, 2024, at 2:30PM, Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com wrote:

Thank you Lenin. This ask stems from Alpla saying that they are not receiving accurate data from us. When comparing what they are seeing to what we are sending there is some mix up somewhere. Have you gotten word of this from Alpla?

Ultimately, we want to validate that you are receiving the same values as what we are sending again.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

-----Original Message-----

From: L&E lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 12:02 PM

To: Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com

Cc: Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com

Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Vetro Contact

This message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER be CAUTIOUS, particularly

with links and attachments ________________________________

It is the same for all lines.

Lenin Vera

FSE

+1 812 5602700

On Oct 23, 2024, at 12:11PM, Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com

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  • 5c1fa79b53f87f1f70de1fb1e1c47935

NEXT2 - Data - ALPLA information verification

  • 03-02-2025

Hello Sam,

I need to verify my understanding of the NEXT2 data requirements from ALPLA. HENKEL sends this data through the Malisko -> Prosoft system to the Q1 PLCs as three 12-character strings (PO_NUMBER, IDH_BTL, IDH_CON), which we label as d1-d9 in our software. This data undergoes word-swapping on the Q1 but isn't further processed on the Supervisor. Therefore, on the supervisor, the data remains swapped and isn't reverted to its original form.

What does ALPLA need on the supervisor? Currently, there's no specific area for NEXT2 in the OPC served data, only in the Raw data section (marked as 3 in the attached image). Is the raw data from FromHenkel.STW.d1-d9 sufficient for your needs?

Lenin requested and was confirmed during last Monday's call that data integrity must be maintained from the HENKEL system to the Supervisor data. No changes to the OPC structure were discussed.

OPC Data served on the Supervisor PLC:

Best regards,

Miguel Angel Vera

External Automation Design Engineer

Vetromeccanica srl Smart Moving Solutions

Strada Isolanda 26, 43024 Provazzano, Parma - Italy


  • ebe8558bee69aa2567af358f7705824c

Automatic changeover trial

  • 31-01-2025

Team, There have been several emails with numerous people talking about the Vetro/Alpla/Henkel communications needed to perform the automatic batch changes. I would like to identify who needs to be included in this project and/or on copy. If you have been included in this email and do not need to be on copy or invited to the meetings please let me know and I will remove your email address. Likewise if you see that I have missed someone that needs to be included, please let me know.

Sam Does Autefa need to be involved and if so, who? We had discussed a trial next week, however there are no changeovers during the Monday-Friday work week and we would prefer not to try out changes on Saturday.

So we need to coordinate the next good opportunity. I would also like to establish a core group who will be involved in the trials and changes.

I would like to set up a meeting early next week to discuss when we can actually align a trial with the Henkel production schedule.

Thanks,

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Shannon Johnson Plant Manager BOW2 Alpla Inc.

377 Southwood Ct Bowling Green, KY 42102

M: +1 (270) 619-0452

www.alpla.com

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Re: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

  • 19-12-2024

HelloMiguel, could you please let us know what the estimated time would be to complete this request? Lenin VeraFSE +1 812 5602700 On Dec 19, 2024, at 10:08AM, steve.mcevoy@alpla.com wrote:



Hi Lenin If you could get Italy to offer a feedback on expected timing that would be appreciated.

This piece of work is being pushed by Senior Leadership in ALPLA and HENKEL and we need to manage their expectations

Thanks in advance. Steve


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Hi Steve,

I don't have an estimated date; in Italy they are working on the changes that must be made in all the Q1 PLCs and in the supervisory system PLC. As a rule, when a change is to be made in the supervisory PLC, this change must be made in Italy.

                         Lenin Vera   

Filling & Process Machine Automation Engineer

                     +1 812 5602700

En miércoles, 18 de diciembre de 2024, 13:42:51 (-05:00), steve.mcevoy@alpla.com escribió:

Hi Lenin Thanks for the update Can you give any indication on timings for the changes needed ? Thanks. Steve

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Platt Federico Federico.Platt@alpla.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com;


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

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Hi Steve,

I have been busy this week; I requested help from Italy to make the modification in the PLCs. We have to change the variables di1 - di9 from DINT to SINT.

Thank you and I am sorry for the delay.

                         Lenin Vera   

Filling & Process Machine Automation Engineer

                     +1 812 5602700

En lunes, 16 de diciembre de 2024, 12:15:11 (-05:00), steve.mcevoy@alpla.com escribió:

Hello Lenin & Shannon What is the status please on the validation of the PLC tags Can you provide an update by end of today please? As we have a meeting with Henkel Procurement tomorrow morning

Many thanks. Steve

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; Johnson Shannon Shannon.Johnson@alpla.com; McEvoy Steve steve.mcevoy@alpla.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

All of the PLC tags in all of the PLCs have been updated and are ready to be validated by lenin and then alpla. They are the same structure as the other next tags. Let me know if you have any questions

lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

It looks as if we are now receiving the next next IDH information now from SAP on our side.
@Robert Nation will begin making that data usable and updating our message maps per line. This will require help from Lenin to make sure that he is receiving them correctly and ultimately make sure that Alpla is receiving the same values.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

This is something were still working on. It has been added to line 40 from out end but were waiting to validate those tags with our global SAP/digital team. Once we are getting those data points, we can update the message map and provide those data point locations.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Thanks Brandon. Has the data for the next-next order been added already? This is the other critical piece of information we need for the automatic batch handling / changeover. Regards

Federico Platt Sr Project Engineering Manager +1 (678) 545-5565

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Federico, Now that the signal exchange has been validated, next steps I believe would be to verify that the message map we sent is what Vetro is using and that you are looking at the correct data type for the SAP data. Whenever Sam returns please verify these signals with Vetro. A bottles remaining is being sent from lines 40, 41 and 42 currently thanks to Daniel which is a DINT so it does not need to be converted to a string like the SAP information. Once verified, this can be rolled out to the other 3 OSBB fed lines.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com; Robert Nation robert.nation@henkel.com

(Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com; Brent Page brent.page@henkel.com; Douglas Arnold douglas.arnold@henkel.com


Subject: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Yesterday, the data exchange on each OSBB-fed line was verified with Vetro. During testing, we found that some values were being read correctly but in the wrong data type. Data from SAP goes through multiple conversions between Henkel and Vetro, as outlined below. On the left side of the PLX communication module, Henkels data is in one format, and on the right side, its Alpla's. The process is as follows:

SAP sends data as a string. Henkel converts that string into three DINTs for the PLX communication module. The PLX then converts each DINT into two words. Vetro must then convert this back to the original string value to match the exact data SAP initially sent.

During the testing, we observed that when comparing certain data points, Vetro was reading the correct DINT values. However, to retrieve the original string value, an additional conversion is needed on their end. On Line 41, all values were read back as string values, so every IDH, PO #, etc., matched exactly as Henkel receives them from SAP. On other lines, like Line 40, they received the correct values, and the DINTs matched those being sent. However, some data points still need to be converted back into a string to be fully usable.

@Robert Nation, I think that the logic you created for line 40 with the new strapping table can be implemented across the OSBB fed lines to give Alpla a more accurate running bottle count now. This is assuming the tank dimensions are the same across the lines. Once completed, Vetro will need to verify that their message map matches the one provided to them and this should be resolved.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

(Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

I think that will be a second part once this is figured out.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

(Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Thanks Brandon. All of these signals are what Henkel is sending to Vetro/Alpla. Are there any issues on what ALPLA/Vetro are sending to you? Or this will be the 2nd part of the exercise? Regards

Federico Platt Sr Project Engineering Manager +1 (678) 545-5565

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

This is what weve generated based on our PLCs. This needs to be compared to what Vetro has and corrected where there are discrepancies. Itd be easy enough to rule out a conversion error at the same time. I could force a value into a DINT on all Alpla fed lines and if Vetro receives the same value on their end then at least that possibility has been ruled out.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

(Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Do you have the latest message map that we should refer to? If you have seen issues already with Vetro, it is very likely that those issues have been transferred to us.

Federico Platt Sr Project Engineering Manager +1 (678) 545-5565

a.bhrahmbhatt@vmeccanica.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

No changes on our end but thats what we need someone to tell us if every data point is inaccurate or if just certain data points. We need to understand if this is an issue with the data map or if there is some dint/word conversion error taking place or even if there is something in between Alpla and Vetro that is incorrect. We are already seeing discrepancies between the the message maps we have versus what Vetro has but firstly need to verify the conversion between data types is also not an issue. From what I see on our end the data in our PLC is correct, so again that data may not be where Vetro is expecting it to be or there is something else going on with the data type conversion.


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

(Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: [EXT] RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Hi Brandon, This request will require some time on our end to evaluate. Sam is out of office for 2 more weeks and I will need to find time in the next days if the need is urgent. Has anything been changed in your end for the last couple of months, since we discussed the topic? Regards

Federico Platt Sr Project Engineering Manager +1 (678) 545-5565

Platt Federico Federico.Platt@alpla.com; Colley Sam Sam.Colley@alpla.com; David Busch david.busch@henkel.com; Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna (Ext@malisko.com) bmahanna@malisko.com


Subject: RE: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Hi Federico or Sam, can you provide any feedback on what exactly is not coming thru correctly? Is it everything or only certain data?


Brandon Miller

Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering


Subject: Vetro/ALPLA information verification

Good morning. Brandon is trying to validate the information which has been re-mapped from the SAP and MES systems to ALPLA to verify the change overs and current status of bottles is correct and what ALPLA needs to finish their side of inventory controls for staging. This isnt really something we are willing to wait on until Lenin is onsite if he can check this remotely please schedule it. It doesnt necessarily need to be Lenin… can be any one of the programmers on your side whom may be qualified and know what to look for. We are at a standstill until the adjusted information has been validated and we dont need this to fall through the cracks again for another few years. Currently it is to validate that we are now transmitting the requested information that ALPLA is looking for which Brandon can validate exactly what is being transferred. Respective to time spent on validating the information if we need to pay for the time to ensure its captured, I am cleared to cover the additional cost within an existing project. As this has been an open issue for a number of years, and that we have the potential to close this item finally, please help Brandon validate the information quickly.

David Busch Sr Project Manager Henkel Bowling Green, Ky (Cell) 270-282-3818

-----Original Message-----

mscott@malisko.com; Brett Mahanna


Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: Vetro Contact Lenin, Attached is the evaluation we've completed on all of the Alpla fed lines. We need to understand where Alpla is not receiving the correct data. From my understanding it sounds like everything coming thru is incorrect. @Federico.Platt@alpla.com, can you confirm what specific data is incorrect or is it everything? I understand that some lines are not sending a bottles remaining, that is being worked on but first need to make sure that data is being transferred from Henkel to Vetro correctly. If I remember, even the SAP IDH # is not being received correctly.


Brandon Miller Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

-----Original Message-----


Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Vetro Contact Yes, I can work with you on this issue, I can connect remotely. Alok told me about this situation. I will speak with him tomorrow to confirm my involvement. Lenin Vera FSE +1 812 5602700

On Oct 23, 2024, at 5:02PM, Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com wrote:

I'm not sure either. Is this something that we can work together on? Alok mentioned that I should reach out to you for this. I do not know your ability to help verify remotely.


Brandon Miller Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

-----Original Message----- From: L&E lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 3:58 PM To: Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com Cc: Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Vetro Contact

This message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER be CAUTIOUS, particularly with links and attachments ________________________________

ALPLA has not commented anything to me, I am not sure if they have spoken to anyone in Italy.

Lenin Vera FSE +1 812 5602700

On Oct 23, 2024, at 2:30PM, Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com wrote:

Thank you Lenin. This ask stems from Alpla saying that they are not receiving accurate data from us. When comparing what they are seeing to what we are sending there is some mix up somewhere. Have you gotten word of this from Alpla?

Ultimately, we want to validate that you are receiving the same values as what we are sending again.


Brandon Miller Capital Automation & Digitalization - Engineering

-----Original Message----- From: L&E lenin.vera@leautomationandcontrol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2024 12:02 PM To: Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com Cc: Matt Scott (Ext@malisko.com) mscott@malisko.com Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: Vetro Contact

This message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER be CAUTIOUS, particularly with links and attachments ________________________________

It is the same for all lines.

Lenin Vera FSE +1 812 5602700

On Oct 23, 2024, at 12:11PM, Brandon B Miller brandon.b.miller@henkel.com wrote:

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I: 9.3061-TLO26-L42 automatic change over test

  • 04-01-2024

Hi Federico, We corrected the error on IDH_BTL_NEXT, now it will only validate the signal when a match is found. Regarding TL27-4L41 it was only a text error, supervision is pulling the alarms from TL27-4L40. We remain available for further requests. Thank you and kind regards, Max

From: Federico.Platt@alpla.com Federico.Platt@alpla.com

Matteo Canetti m.canetti@vetromeccanica.it; Massimiliano Petrosino m.petrosino@vetromeccanica.it;


Subject: RE: 9.3061-TLO26-L42 automatic change over test

Max, I do have 2 requests now that you have your automation team on copy. This list will grow as we keep checking your system bugs on detail.

Henkel is receiving a IDH_BTL_NEXT confirmation all the time. You are not really confirming if the number is valid, you just send the confirmation signal all the time, even when no data is being sent.

On supervisor panel, we are not receiving data from TL27-L40. The actual legend says “TLO27 4L41” which is not right. It is not populating the alarms from the right HMI.

Federico Platt Sr Project Manager - Engineering +1 (678) 545-5565 -----Original Message-----

Massimiliano Petrosino m.petrosino@vetromeccanica.it


Subject: 9.3061-TLO26-L42 automatic change over test ** INFO: External Email ** ALPLA Corp-IT Systems Good afternoon Federico, We would like to test the automatic change over several times tomorrow while line 42 is down. In order to test Henkel should simulate batch code signal and AUTEFA should as well complete the change over. Do you think it would be possible tomorrow from 8 till 11 AM? Thank you for your cooperation, Max


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I: Alpla BOW: Batch handling 9.3040-3074 ALPLA BG

  • 04-01-2024

Luca Brarda l.brarda@vetromeccanica.it; Obert Peter (ASG) Peter.Obert@autefa.com

Peter included now as well. Max

Ureda Sudheesh (ASG-Extern) Sudheesh.Ureda@autefa.com; Andrea Attolini a.attolini@vetromeccanica.it; Luca Brarda l.brarda@vetromeccanica.it

Priorità: Alta

Good afternoon, ALPLA is pushing to use the number with amount of bottles passing through bottle turner to calculate amount of bottles passing on the line. Since this signal has been agreed last year I believe you should prioritzie this on site and tell ALPLA directly if there is any issue sharing this value. Thank you and kind regards, Max

Ureda Sudheesh (ASG-Extern) Sudheesh.Ureda@autefa.com; Andrea Attolini a.attolini@vetromeccanica.it; Luca Brarda l.brarda@vetromeccanica.it

Dear All, I confirm that from Wednesday June 17th our programmer Wilbert will be available on site to follow up batch handling commissioning. Kind regards, Max

Ureda Sudheesh (ASG-Extern) Sudheesh.Ureda@autefa.com; Andrea Attolini a.attolini@vetromeccanica.it

Dear All, I believe the following points are not solved yet. Furthermore we are not receiving a number of bottles produced by AUTEFA other than 0. ALPLA is pushing us to sort this point within this week, perhaps the type of variable is not correct. Perhaps we could have a call on Wednesday to discuss these? Thank you and kind regards, Max

Ureda Sudheesh (ASG-Extern) Sudheesh.Ureda@autefa.com

Hello Max,

Today while checking the information received from Supervision PLC,

We noticed 3 discrepancies from Vetro,( as per info from Wilbert and data received)

1: The Target count received by Autefa is remaining bottles... Where as we expect following a: Total target count and not remaining count....

b: And 0 target count as "batch finish" as a confirmation, when Henkel receives all required bottles count

2: No next batch+1 info received by Autefa (as per definition we need this data for organised supply)

3: The ejected bottles along line, after merger are not added in total target from time to time(???)

Right now we are receiving legitimate data for L25, L40, L42 (3 lines)

Best regards,

Sachin Dahane


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I: Alpla BOW: Batch Handling Issue for TG10 & TG20

  • 04-01-2024

Fritzsche-Zoeschinger Martin (ASG) Martin.Fritzsche-Zoeschinger@autefa.com

Hello Max/ Willbert,

We are still not getting correct data in TG10 (Batch Data) and response to TG20 ( Accept is not received even if selected combination is correct).

That was the reason we had trouble yesterday delivering bottles on Line 43 from TLO24. Also, now we cannot put TLO27 on line40 because we do not get "Accept" from your end, creating difficulty in "counting unloaded" bottles and supplying same to you. We observed that this TG20 Telegram sometimes work fine, but sometimes its not accepted, as well as no error is given for rejection ...(error number remained 0)

Please look into this ASAP. Thanks.

The TG10 status is given below for your ready reference.

Recorded at 22nd June 01:00 L23 L25 L40 L41 L42 L43
TLO 21 TLO 22 TLO 27 TLO 28 TLO 26 TLO 24
Last Telegram INFO Received on 21st June
at 20:29
17th June
at 22:10
22nd June
at 15:08
21st June
at 17:10
21st June
at 23:17
10th April
at 10:18
Actual_Batch_ID[1] '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[2] '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[3] '2' '2' '2' '2' '2' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[4] '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[5] '0' '0' '0' '0' '0' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[6] '4' '4' '4' '4' '4' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[7] '2' '2' '2' '2' '2' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[8] '7' '5' '6' '5' '6' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[9] '5' '2' '4' '3' '4' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[10] '3' '9' '6' '1' '6' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[11] '8' '7' '2' '5' '3' ' '
Actual_Batch_ID[12] '7' '9' '6' '8' '8' ' '
Active Batch Target 138 -5639 71659 35129 55747 59912
Active Batch AVID 0 105 186 167 207 0
Next_Batch_ID[1] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[2] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[3] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[4] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[5] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[6] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[7] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[8] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[9] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[10] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[11] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Batch_ID[12] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next Batch Target 25640 0 23660 0 65484 0
Next Batch AVID 197 105 186 109 216 0
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[1] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[2] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[3] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[4] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[5] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[6] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[7] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[8] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[9] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[10] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[11] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch_ID[12] ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
Next_Next+1_Batch Target 0 0 0 0 0 0
Next_Next+1_Batch AVID 0 0 0 0 0 0

Best regards,

Sachin Dahane


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I: Bottle counters / Batch handling

  • 04-01-2024

Hi Max, Replaying to your last message from this morning, Bottle counters: -still missing install the counter after lowerator line 40, 41 and 42. -pending modification SW to add the new counters in line 40, 41 and 42 in Henkel side. -only some counter have the new bracket, I think all of them have to be with the new bracket to avoid that the sensors move and do bad counting,

-still pending confirm how are going to work the counters, if we have to reset all of them to zero or not, I saw that the counter from filler till this moment is not reset, please confirm this to modify the software if is necessary. -still pending confirm TG61 with the right value of bottles load from Autefa in TLO22 and TLO21.

Changeover/batch handling: -Now in logic we see if is a complete changeover (different family number) or same family product with a different color/spigot/dose cup (using Product ID when is different) or same bottle but different batch number, that´s mean that we have to start the counters for a new batch, still pending check the last changes did for this. -Add some signals to know when the EMD guides and lifter guides are in position before send changeover done to Henkel. -still pending find a way to avoid that merger finish the empting before Bottle turner send all the bottles, we don´t know when the BT is and TLO is empty, now the emptying in merger start when we receive the remaining bottle to fill in 0 from Henkel, so I think that is better have a signal that the BT is empty and in this point start the emptying in the merger. -Last time when we did a test, Q2 didn´t start the changeover, now Q2 in 40, 41 and 42 has the same modification that Q1 and also in this case, Q2 have to wait that Q1 is empty to start the emptying in Q2 and in this way avoid that conveyors before bottle counter stay with bottles. -change signals of line empty and change over done to a SR memory, in this way the cycle machine have to complete all the steps in the same order in both panels and send this right signals to Henkel when have to be, before the logic let that Q1 finish the changeover first and when finish by the conditions start again the empting and never send the signals to Henkel, this change is still pending to check.

I attached a file that with the step to follow for the changeover with Henkel as reference, the original version was send to me for Federico, I modify a little bit to let it according to the last changes did in SW.

Regards, Wilbert Dzul

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I: OPC-UA interface Vetro - Bowling Green 2

  • 04-01-2024

Dear Christoph,

Thank you for describing step by step change of batch procedure. We are modifyiing the software to follow exactly below procedure. As agreed with Federico today the min accumulated bottles at the infeed of labeler and filler necessary for labeler and filler to work will not be take into account in the Vetromeccanica automatic batch handling and change over procedure but AUTEFA will have to consideri t and sen additional bottles. Siegrfied hope you are doing well. As per today ALPLA is still not writing the list fo SKU and AV in our supervision PLC memory therefore we are able to process HENKEL SKU in automatic. Attached email for reference. This is quite urgent in order to start processing SKU. Thank you and kind regards,

Max

Dear Max, For the batch change and reset of the counters the process should be following: Same bottle at next batch:

We will not purge the line from the bottles. Manual confirmation ready for next batch -> set counter to 0
If we have a new bottle for the next batch:

Run until batch end Line clearance Manual confirmation that line is clear -> set counter to 0 Change over starts Manual acknowledgement that changeover is completed, and line is ready for new bottles -> start of bottle count and start to send new bottle from TLO As already agreed, the physically counter will not be reset to 0 it will keep counting up until. For example, if counter is 232,323,232 it stays at this number at the batch end and start of the new batch. Thanks CK


Subject: R: OPC-UA interface Vetro - Bowling Green 2

Importance: High

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Dear Christoph, Thank you for your prompt respone! I sincerely hope you enjoyed Christmas holidays and had a great start of 2021! Going back to change over and counter reset topics we prepared attached excel sheet, this may help clarify each single step with HENKEL as well. Furthermore take the chance to bring to your attention the need of completion of 3 important steps before we can proceed with automatic batch handling on the lines:

Confirmation of change over procedure and counters reset as per attachedALPLA sharing fully updated chart with SKU relating to article variant number and article variant description in the Vetromeccanica supervision data structure Testing thoroughly on site communication with AUTEFA for automatic batch handling

I will be back from vacation on Monday January 11th but will forward your answer to my colleagues on this point. Tomorrow we will be closed due to national holiday.

Thank you and kind regards, Max

Dear Max. We are not planning to rest the counter until we have the max accumulated numbers reached.

The other two points are not needed since we have a counter from Henkel what indicated the still needed bottles before we can change over.

You will use this number to let Autefa know when we will push the last tray since you know the total amount of bottes on the conveyors. We always will have some bottles left on the conveyor since we need to ensure that Henkel can empty the tank. Best regards CK


Subject: RE: OPC-UA interface Vetro - Bowling Green 2

Dear Max, Let me check these points. Hope to have an answer still this week. Best regards CK


Subject: R: OPC-UA interface Vetro - Bowling Green 2

Importance: High

** INFO: External Email ** ALPLA Corp-IT Systems

Good afternoon Christoph, I would need a confirmation about when to reset counter in automatic mode for batch handling. Based on your previous experience perhaps you can answer easily.

Automatic mode signal counter reset from Henkel when switching to new batch à pop up on Vetro HMI to ackwnoledge new batch (reset counter when operator press okay)

Furthermore we suggest to agree on procedure to empty the line when running last bottles on HENKEL side to avoid manual take out of bottles from conveyors:

Labeler operator presses button on labeler HMI to by pass minimum bottles accumulationFiller operator presses button on labeler HMI to by pass minimum bottles accumulation Could we have a call tomorrow to go through these points? Perhaps you may answer all our questions or bring up furhter questions on these points.

Apologies for the late notice but since I am back in the office I am finally able to discuss face to face some openstanding points from our automation department. Thank you and kind regards, Max

Hi Carlo ! We are now daily reporting the Countervalues of TL27. I recognized that counter SideGripDosingbelt was resetted suddenly on Monday from 443606 to 114. Now since then counter SideGripDosingbelt does not really count anymore but FillerCount does count. Can you explain this obsvervations ? KR Sigi Bereuter

Corporate IT Head of Software Development ALPLA Hard Mockenstraße 34, A-6971 Hard

T: +43 / 5574 / 602-436

F: +43 / 5574 / 62017-139 M: +43 / 664 / 88931443


Alpla Werke Alwin Lehner GmbH & Co KG Allmendstraße 81 A-6971 Hard

Firmenbuchgericht LG Feldkirch, Firmenbuchnummer FN 13422 p


Subject: R: OPC-UA interface Vetro - Bowling Green 2

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Good morning, no for the moment the "BatchLast" is not updated by the lines, as soon as it is implemented I will inform you. Best regards, CF

Carlo Felici Automation Development Manager Vetromeccanica srl Glass Packaging Solutions

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Hi Carlo !
Thanks for the update we can see the new structure in usbow2, we already did the necessary changes on our Scada System.
Will the BatchLast already be update with data from BatchActual once Batch changes happens and what is the trigger
for updating BatchLast ?

Sigi Bereuter

Corporate IT Head of Software Development ALPLA Hard Mockenstraße 34, A-6971 Hard

T: +43 / 5574 / 602-436

F: +43 / 5574 / 62017-139 M: +43 / 664 / 88931443


Alpla Werke Alwin Lehner GmbH & Co KG Allmendstraße 81 A-6971 Hard

Firmenbuchgericht LG Feldkirch, Firmenbuchnummer FN 13422 p

Platt Federico Federico.Platt@alpla.com


Subject: [WARNING: ATTACHMENT UNSCANNED]OPC-UA interface Vetro - Bowling Green 2

** INFO: External Email ** ALPLA Corp-IT Systems

Good morning, attached an update of the OPC structures in which I have: added as per your request the "batchLast" structure with the same data of the "Actual" plus the two values of the "DosignBelt" and "InfeedFiller" counters.

I removed the useless "Istance" "St" from the "ToAlplaStatusLine" structure.

added information for backup lines and TL26.

in addition these are not 2 "mergers" but the two inputs of the same merger

there are 4 "QE" structures which represent the maximum number of electrical panels present for each line,

for example in the TL28 which has only one electrical panel only the "QE1" structure will be considered,

for the TL22 which has 4 they will be considered all structures,

this is the "divider" present only on the TL22

"Combiner" present only on the TL22

"BottlesTurner" managed by Vetromeccanica present only on the TL21

Best regards, CF Carlo Felici Automation Development Manager Vetromeccanica srl Glass Packaging Solutions

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We deliver and order solely on the basis of our General Terms and Conditions of Sale and Delivery respectively of Purchase set forth in www.alpla.com/en/gtc-listing/gtc, which both contain a venue clause and an arbitration clause. Contradictory commercial terms and conditions shall not apply.

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R: 9.3040-3074 ALPLA data exchange with HENKEL - line commisioning

  • 29-10-2020

Dear All, We confirm the following code sas per attached e-mail) are matching with what we agreed back in May therefore we can process P/N (customer article) but ALPLA should write in our supervision PLC a list where customer article is associated to AV, AV Desc, Product Family as agreed.

This list will be constantly editable by ALPLA on a persistent memory as agreed in order for Vetromeccanica to handle new customer articles except for new formats (new bottle shapes) which will require new recipes and commissioning first. As per now we only have an excel list dated May 2020 which we cannot use for batch handling.

ALPLA AV Blank Bottle P/N
184 2638879
253 2688129
102 2638876

Agreed:

AV (must be forwared to Autefa, must be shown on your HMIs) AV Desc (must be shown on you HMIs) Product Family (must be used by Vetro to select right Recipe) Customer article Number (used by Vetro to find matching AV)

I know that our software engineer Wilbert has been in contact also today with Malisko and we are moving forward. Kindkly ask to be in the loop of communciation with our software engineers. Thank you and kind regards, Maximilian Rossi

Andrea Attolini a.attolini@vetromeccanica.it; Marco Bertagnolo m.bertagnolo@vetromeccanica.it; Giovanni Friggeri g.friggeri@vetromeccanica.it

Dear Federico,

In order to increase efficiency of line 25 and 40 it is quite clear since months that we need to work in automatic with speed synchronization between labeler and filler. At the moment we receive the following data from line 40 only:

From labeller one speed value of 350, does it mean 21.000 bph or 21.000 mm/min ?

From filler only machine cycle on

Looking forward to your support on this topic. We are fully available for a meeting on site with MCC and RONCHI to move forward. Thank you and kind regards, Max

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FW: Post Operations Meeting Logistics Update - 10/28/2020

  • 28-10-2020

Subject: Post Operations Meeting Logistics Update - 10/28/2020

All, Good Afternoon. Please find below an update on the current fill plans and production plans. Please note there are two change-overs scheduled for Henkel lines in the next 12 hours. ALPLA Production Plan Line7 Running LF04B H All Blue all week. Line 8 Running SP05 with color change-overs. Currently running White with a change-over to Green expected on Wednesday/Thursday Line 9 Down waiting on color for Beluga Orange. Henkel Fill Schedule Line 25 running 24 hours per day Monday 6:00 AM Saturday 6:00 AM. Expected change-over to All Blue on Wednesday (10/28/2020)

Line Program Color ALPLA AV Blank Bottle P/N Desc. Total Bottles Per Stack Total Stacks for Run Day Expected Change-over Date and Time
3L25 LF04B H All White 105 2638861 HDPE LF04B H 40oz All White 39,126 2,464 15.88 Wednesday 10/28/20 4:01 PM
3L25 LF04B H All Blue 126 2638860 HDPE LF04B H 40oz All Blue 403,468 2,464 163.75 Tuesday 11/3/20 12:21 PM

Line 40 is running Sunday at 8:00 PM Friday at 4:00 PM 20 hours per day. Currently running Pearl Blue with expected change-over to Cuddle Blue on Wednesday (10/28/2020)

Line Program Color ALPLA AV Blank Bottle P/N Desc. Total Bottles Per Stack Total Stacks for Run Day Expected Change-over Date and Time
3L40 SP05 Pearl Blue 184 2638879 HDPE SP05 100oz Pearl Blue 44,000 1,260 34.92 Wednesday 10/28/20 10:40 PM
3L40 SP05 Cuddle Blue 253 2688129 HDPE SP05 100oz Cuddle Blue 127,062 1,260 100.84 Sunday 11/1/20 11:01 PM
3L40 SP05 White 102 2638876 HDPE SP05 100oz White 72,011 1,260 55.49 Tuesday 11/3/20 1:01 AM

If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know. Best regards, William Bucklew Logistics Manager Alpla Inc. 377 Southwood Court New Address Bowling Green, KY 42101 USA

T: + M: +1 (270) 421-5476

www.alpla.com

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R: Alpla - Vetro SKU via OPC 9.3040-3074

  • 21-05-2020

Dear Siegfried, Thank you for your prompt response. Hereby our feedback:

We confirm we accept fully your SKU structure (see below image) but please specify the number of characters for AV description, we considered for now 36 and needs to be defined. Waiting for your confirmation of structure and characters.The list as per your request will remain persistent, it means it will remain saved on our supervision PLC even after restart of our superivision control cabinet or shut down of your SCADA. We underline we will not do any writing on this list, only ALPLA will edit this list through SCADA.Whenever we will receive SKU for new batch from one of 6 HENKEL line supervision PLC we will forward AV to AUTEFA and show on all Vetromeccanica HMI of that line a pop-up request for new batch. At that point operator will have to confirm manually on all HMIs of that line:

Checked line is clear from bottles - confirm Change over is started confirm (when operator confirms change over is started the PLC automatically loads recipe corresponding to SKU, shows AV and AV Desc on that precise HMI and changes guide width) Change over is completed confirm If you confirm the attached list(no changes from yours) including simplified association between AV Desc and Product family clearly visibile below just for sake of quick overview we will start shipping control cabinets HMI with correct numbering of recipes avoiding extra work on site (20 control cabinets have been shipeed already with different numbering than below) plus enable visibility of AV and AV Desc on HMI. We have a shipping of 8 control cabinets next week therefore your soonest confirmation is highly appreciated.

Beluga 8
H13 9
H14 17
H96 18
LF04B 6
LF10B 7
SP1 5
Sp2 14
Sp5 3
Sp12 13
Sp14 15
Sp17 4
Sp26 16

For any question please do not hesitate to call me. Thank you for your cooperation and kind regards, Maximilian Rossi

Hi Maximilian ! As mentioned, attached you can find the whole SKU List. For only those Fields are relevant: AV (must be forwared to Autefa, must be shown on your HMIs) AV Desc
(must be shown on you HMIs) Product Family (must be used by Vetro to select right Recipe) Customer article Number (used by Vetro to find matching AV)

Via OPC Ua we would expect form you to provide a Variable with a structure like this: ALPLA_SKU : STRUCT AV : DINT; AvDesc : STRING; ProductFamily : DINT; CustomerNumber: DINT; END_STRUCT; Finally you define a DB with this Variabel inside: AlplaSkuList Array[250] of ALPLA_SKU;

Sigi Bereuter

Corporate IT Head of Software Development ALPLA Hard Mockenstraße 34, A-6971 Hard

T: +43 / 5574 / 602-436

F: +43 / 5574 / 62017-139 M: +43 / 664 / 88931443


Alpla Werke Alwin Lehner GmbH & Co KG Allmendstraße 81 A-6971 Hard

Firmenbuchgericht LG Feldkirch, Firmenbuchnummer FN 13422 p


Subject: R: minutes - update data points Vetromeccanica - Bowling Green 2 9.3040-3074

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ALPLA Corp-IT Network and Security.

Dear All, following today short call with Christoph we await to know HENKEL SKUs proposal to evaluate the necessary work on all sides to get batch communication going. Thank you for your support and cooperation. Kind regards, Maximilian Rossi

Hi CK and Maximilian, Could you talk to Henkel if they could use the Alpla articlevariantId (double INT) for batch order communication from Henkel to Vetro? This would make the communication much easier because we could use the same number in the entire system. At the moment there are two Int numbers for type and colour in your list. Also we additionally do need a unique batch number from Henkel to each order for traceability. Thanks!

Best Regards, Andre Alber

a.attolini@vetromeccanica.it; Bereuter Siegfried Siegfried.Bereuter@alpla.com; Greber Samuel Samuel.Greber@alpla.com; Radl Michael Michael.Radl@alpla.com; Spathelf Uwe Uwe.Spathelf@alpla.com

Betreff: R: minutes - update data points Vetromeccanica - Bowling Green 2

Dear All, thank you for your time yesterday. As we all know Vetromeccanica needs to pin down details of data exchange for supervision as soon as possible for two reasons:

We are shipping control cabinets without havingt set up the same SKU you want to use. This is generating extra work on site which hasnt been foreseen.Our supervision cabinet exchanges batch format information with HENKEL, ALPLA and AUTEFA and considering production start on line 4L40 is planned begin of July we have planned our software technician starting end of May with dry commissioning and signal exchnage testing with HENKEL and AUTEFA. This means we need to complete supervision software in the next weeks which is becoming impossible. For the reasons above we need to continue the software development without including options you requested for now such as HMI recipes synchronization with SCADA and images for alarm pop up on operator Iphone or other alternatives. Underneath in red our answers. Looking forward to your feedback. Perhaps we can have a conference call about SKUs on Monday to answer your questions? Thank you and kind regards, Maximilian Rossi

Hi All, please find updated minutes below in green.

Best Regards, Andre Alber

Maximilian Rossi (m.rossi@vetromeccanica.it) m.rossi@vetromeccanica.it; Bereuter Siegfried Siegfried.Bereuter@alpla.com; Greber Samuel Samuel.Greber@alpla.com; Radl Michael Michael.Radl@alpla.com; Spathelf Uwe Uwe.Spathelf@alpla.com

a.biasini@vetromeccanica.it; 'f.maggio@vetromeccanica.it' f.maggio@vetromeccanica.it

Betreff: AW: minutes - update data points Vetromeccanica - Bowling Green 2

Hi All, see below the minutes of our review.

Best Regards, Andre Alber

Kempter Christoph Christoph.Kempter@alpla.com; a.attolini@vetromeccanica.it; Maximilian Rossi (m.rossi@vetromeccanica.it) m.rossi@vetromeccanica.it; Bereuter Siegfried (Siegfried.Bereuter@alpla.com) Siegfried.Bereuter@alpla.com; Greber Samuel Samuel.Greber@alpla.com; Radl Michael Michael.Radl@alpla.com; Spathelf Uwe (Uwe.Spathelf@alpla.com) Uwe.Spathelf@alpla.com

a.biasini@vetromeccanica.it; 'f.maggio@vetromeccanica.it' f.maggio@vetromeccanica.it

Betreff: minutes - update data points Vetromeccanica - Bowling Green 2

Hi All, please find below the minutes of our review today:

Alarm Massage:

alarm message related to a certain picture with the highlighted part of the equipment à Vetro to provide example and description à relation of picture to the alarm is not possible. There is not enough information in the picture name. One possibility is an unique alarm code for each motor with contains the picture name/number. Vetro to show an example for the motors, jamming B1, Jamming B2, etc. which show how to construct a relation of the alarm to the picture. The proposed unit type does not needed to be in the alarm code Vetro to submit by 23rd of Aprilentire alarms should be done in one structure à will not be possible. Different lists will be availableSiegfried B. submit a proposal for a generic alarm array à Vetro will use the orig. proposed structure of alarmsExport file into XML from OPC-UA from Vetro to be send to Siegfried à once structure is agreedAlarms will be submitted in one big array, Siegfried confirmed in general this procedure; We are proceeding with structure update including all data.Approx. 1200pictrues would be necessary à Vetro to submit a proposal for the programming and submit an example which Alpla would test on the note system handheld à Alpla to discuss internally if this solution really makes sense at this stage Attached example of std pictures of line 4L40 we have on our HMI. Those pictures ending with “_Generale” are the main picture on the HMI and when you press on a pre-delimited area you get the other pictures showing devices such as sensors and motors in green (functioning) or red (malfunctioning). Pictures of area between labeler and filler dont show information about functioning since these are only an example in terms of zoom level.Vetro to investigate with Siemens if there is an optimized solution available to visualize the HMI on the handheld We had a first meeting today at 14:00 and will have another early next week. Data points from filling lines

Ready SpeedBatch sizeBatch formatEtc. OEE datas (ejected bottles per ejector)

Ejected bottles of each ejectorBottle counter on each positions where bottles are counted (elevator, lowerator, counter on HITW) Preventive maintenance datas:

Maintenance message will be availableAre hours meters per motor available? Data points status sensors, speed of motors, etc. to be shared on the OPC-UA interface Data points bottle turner to Autefa and via Autefa to the OPC-UA

SKU code to be generated by Alpla à Alpla/Andre

Procedure to add an SKU to the PLC to be explained by Vetro (e.g. new colour) à adding of a new SKU can be done on the HMI

Can Vetro receive a list of SKUs through OPC-UA see example list of SKUs attached We can definitely work with ProdArticled and pass to you and AUTEFA ArticleVariantId or CustomerKey since you need to know the color. The important this is that HENKEL sends to us ProdArticledId plus ArticleVariantId or CustomerKey so we dont have to process the full list but just pass it throgh. Our recipes on the HMI would show Format associated to ProdArticleId since we do not work with colors. If you can still change the association of ProdArticleId Format as per attached (sheet recipes# VM) we would not have to change the recipes of the 17 cabinets we have shipped already and shared with AUTEFA as well. Can Vetro store the list inside the PLC so the list is available also without SCADA system

How would this list be shown on the HMI How to bring the list of SKUs in relation to the parameter recipe

Vetro to submit a proposal how to administrate the SKUs as requested

Interface description Henkel/Vetro to be shared by Vetro à confirmation from Henke is missing confirmation from Henkel in week 20

Best Regards, Andre Alber

liable for any damages, whatever their nature, arising out of transmission failures, viruses, external influence, delays and the like.

We deliver and order solely on the basis of our General Terms and Conditions of Sale and Delivery respectively of Purchase set forth in www.alpla.com/en/gtc-listing/gtc, which both contain a venue clause and an arbitration clause. Contradictory commercial terms and conditions shall not apply.

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Alpla BG: updated telegram description

  • 24-02-2020

Hi Max, please find enclosed updated documents for batch handling. Following was updated

bottle code definitions (see chapter 2.7.2.1 / 2.7.2.2)

export line added (line 24) Note: Export line will be handled as production machine. Vetro to send batches similar to filling lines. In case export is active, TLO24 cannot be assigned to filling line 1-3. Feel free to get in contact with me, if you have any questions.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards i.V. Ulrich Osswald Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Head of Control Systems & Service Business Unit Automation

T: +49 (0)821 2608267 F: +49 (0)821 2608299 M: +49 (0)170 795 0983 AUTEFA SOLUTIONS GERMANY GMBH PAUL-LENZ-STR. 1

86316 FRIEDBERG GERMANY www.autefa.com Managing Director Christian Egger (CEO) Yanwu Liu Amtsgericht Augsburg HRB 26374

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